January 2012

‘Peace and Safety’ – then sudden destruction

Rev Brian McClung, on his blog, “The Sound of an Alarm” has mounted an interesting article as a follow up to the article on “The woman and the ephah” he posted in December and which we have on our site also. Rev McClung highlights yet another exercise in EU propaganda with prophetic overtones. We commend the article to our readers.

In a follow up to the article on the woman and the ephah I have come across reference to a video on a number of blogs this past week. It is also on YouTube. It is another exercise in EU propaganda.

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The video is a production by the European Young Socialists, who are extolling the virtues of European integration. I am not really interested in the ins and outs of the video and I haven’t watched it through. That is why there are no links to it in this post. I am however very interested in the lyrics of the song that can be found here. Here are those lyrics:

Verse 1

They say that we’ve got nothing in common

No cultural ties to build on

The project just can’t work

They say that nationalism will break us

Conservatives will fight us

But trust we really do care

 

Chorus

And we shout what about Europe United?

Peace and safety for all of the people

Democracy, freedom, subsidiarity

Federalism, the solution we’ve got

 

Verse 2

They say we’ll never work together

To make our union stronger

Let us say no!

We’ll build a Europe bold and new

A democracy that’s true Europe

United as one!

 

Verse 3

We say the EU’s a confusion

Lacking a Constitution

But we know what to do

Reform now, we want to see enlargement

Accept our major statement

Europe united as one!

I was particularly taken with the line: ‘Peace and safety for all the people’ in the chorus. These are the very words which the Apostle Paul by divine inspiration states will be the thinking and utterance of those who have followed Antichrist and who will defy the God of heaven and His Christ prior to His second coming.

In 1 Thessalonians 5:1-3 Paul writes: But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

 

I have underlined the words in this passage of Scripture that are worth noticing in connection with this song. The Scripture states that ‘Peace and safety’ will be the deluded spirit that imbibes these followers of Antichrist and the words that are spoken by those who are shortly heading for sudden destruction.

The coming of the Lord will overcome them as a thief in the night. They will not be expecting it. They will have denied the Lord and the truth of His Word. By this time the false prophet will have set up the image of Antichrist and those spoken of in these verses will be worshipping him as God.

Then Suddenly Christ will appear in His glory and consume Antichrist with the brightness of His coming. There will be no escape. Sudden destruction will come upon them.

Some points worth emphasising:

1. I am not saying that this is the fulfillment of this passage of Scripture. Like the use of the woman in the Greek urn in the earlier post by those involved or supportive of the EU, it simply demonstrates that the spirit of Antichrist is developing further in these days. That spirit was present in New Testatment times, 1 John 4:3: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

2. Let us never doubt what God says in His Word with respect to the future. He knows all things which shall come to pass.

3. Let us not be afraid of employing a literal principle of interpretation of Scripture. The Scriptures don’t need to be ‘spiritualised’ away. We can safely interpret prophecy regarding the future by the same interpretive rules as have been used with regard to fulfilled prophecy. There is indeed symbolic language in the Bible and in the prophecies, but this symbolism does not negate the literal nature of these events. We should reject any interpretation that spiritualises these prophetic passages.

4. The European Union will be part of the kingdom of Antichrist that will be in existence prior to the coming again of Jesus Christ. There are further upheavals that must and will take place. The present troubles in the Euro with respect to Germany and other European mainland countries, and the agitation in Scotland for independence, may well play a part in the developing of the final kingdom of Antichrist.

 

Comments from Free Presbyterian ministers on decriminalising sodomy in Northern Ireland 30 years ago.

Rev. Ivan Foster’s submission to the Newsletter for the article above:

NL – 1. Thirty years on, what do you think of that change in the law?

IF – The decision was a retrograde step with immeasurable moral harm to the whole nation, especially the rising generations and their moral perceptions. I believe the increase in the abuse of children stems from the changing public attitude toward sexual perversion that the change of the law in 1982 brought about. The dangers that resulted from the changing of the law are greater by far than those that were anticipated.

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NL – 2. Do you have any more sympathy for the case Jeffrey Dudgeon took to the European court now than you did then?

IF – Today, in the light of the consequences of legalising sodomy, I would denounce that change more vigorously, if possible, than I did then. Our fears of what would be the consequences of change have been more than realised. There is no profit or benefits emanating from sin.

NL – 3. How important was that judgement?

IF – I view it as an important event which impacted upon the morality of society in a most detrimental fashion. It was one of the major steps away from the moral standards of God’s Word in post-war UK, akin to the abolishing of the death penalty for murder. In Ulster for the last 5 years we have had the public funding of sodomy through the auspices of the Office of the First and Deputy First Minister. Such a tolerating of this wicked misuse of public funding by the unionist political leadership, some of whom campaigned against the changing of the law 30 years ago, is a stark illustration of the changed attitudes in Ulster that stem from the decision to change the law on sodomy. It is no coincidence that alongside the tolerance of sodomy is found a new attitude toward robbery, violence, terrorism and murder as is epitomised in the make-up of the present Stormont Executive.

NL – 4. Did the publicity which the Free Presbyterians got from that help the church in its early growth?

IF – Whatever publicity emerged from the campaign would not have highlighted anything new about the stand and witness of the Free Presbyterian Church for the teaching of the Bible. The Church of Christ does not advance as a result of publicity campaigns but rather under the blessing of God. It is the Lord Who advances His cause as He promised in His Word. “I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it,” Matthew 16:18. Publicity, adverse or otherwise, is not the means of growth for the work of God.

NL – 5. Were you actively involved in the Save Ulster From Sodomy campaign and have you memories of that?

I, like all Free Presbyterian ministers, under the leadership of Dr Ian Paisley, would have preached against the undermining of God’s Law by the Government and those sympathetic to wickedness. It was a simple emphasising of what was ever the witness of Biblical Protestantism.

NL – 6. Was this a fight which you ever believed you could win?

IF – There are matters which the Christian opposes for which he is well aware he will not win the sympathy or support of the world. The Bible makes it very clear that this world is progressively sliding down into gross wickedness. Indeed, the Saviour tells us that “Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; but the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed,” Luke 17:28-30.

It is the Christian’s duty to oppose and protest against all departures from God’s Truth even as it was Noah’s duty to preach to a world sinking down into wickedness with the full knowledge that his efforts would not stop the decline but rather, when God’s judgment did fall, humanity would be without excuse, having been warned of its wickedness and the judgment that would follow.

Nurses “are losing their sense of compassion”

Click here to read the Daily Telegraph report.

Comment: This report on nursing care in British hospitals serves to highlight one of the consequences of the loss of gospel light in the nation. Nursing care was born of the gospel. God’s grace promotes a care for our neighbour and the history of the gospel illustrates this. The decline in gospel light in mainland Great Britain and the rise of false religions has had its impact everywhere in society, none more so than on the nursing profession. Cases of inhuman cruelty toward patients have been exposed in the press of late. This can only be traced to a decline of common grace within society.

Louis Berkhof has written: Common grace “curbs the destructive power of sin, maintains in a measure the moral order of the universe, thus making an orderly life possible, distributes in varying degrees gifts and talents among men, promotes the development of science and art, and showers untold blessings upon the children of men, ” (Page 434 ‘Systematic Theology’). I believe that hospital care in Northern Ireland still retains much of the old-fashioned Biblical nursing philosophy and many Christian girls still see it as a calling from the Lord to enter nursing. Sadly, the impact of apostasy and the departure from the Bible on the part of the mainline Protestant denominations has had its effect in Ulster.

What a loss a nations suffers when it turns its back on God’s truth!

“And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto the shepherds; Woe be to the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves! should not the shepherds feed the flocks? Ye eat the fat, and ye clothe you with the wool, ye kill them that are fed: but ye feed not the flock. The diseased have ye not strengthened, neither have ye healed that which was sick, neither have ye bound up that which was broken, neither have ye brought again that which was driven away, neither have ye sought that which was lost; but with force and with cruelty have ye ruled them, ” Ezekiel 34:1-4.

The things which will announce, accompany and follow after the return of Christ

NEW! The firstfruits of Christ’s reign on earth. “The word that Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem. And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD’S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it. And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more. O house of Jacob, come ye, and let us walk in the light of the LORD,” Isaiah 2:1-5. Read more…

Previously published:

  • Part one: Why we should watch for Christ’s return.
  • Part two: What the Christian waiting for Christ’s return should look out for.
  • Part three: Why the Saviour warned of deception in the last days.
  • Part four: Events in Israel which will herald the return of Christ.
  • Part five: Signs in the heavens.
  • Part six: The rising again of the city of Babylon.
  • Part seven: Jerusalem besieged by Antichrist.

The woman and the ephah!

(First published on Sound of an alarm)

The euro currency celebrates 10 years since its introduction on 1st January 2012. To mark the 10th anniversary of its inception the European Central Bank has released a video. This six minute exercise in propaganda commences with a computer generated image of a woman emerging from a Greek urn before turning into a real life woman. Read more…

News stories

Archbishop of York tells David Cameron not to overrule the Bible and allow gay marriage

Irish minister admits for first time that neutrality policy during WW2 was ‘morally bankrupt’

Vatican is shaken by corruption scandal

Hain reveals his tactics at the heart of peace process

Peter Hain’s memoirs – insights into haggling that led to Northern Ireland power-sharing deal

DUP councillor would ‘rather die’ than be snapped with SF – (Is yoked in power-sharing less obnoxious than sharing a picture????)

US judge finds no basis to stop release of IRA interviews

Jean McConville death secrets in Boston archive

Boston College defends role in fighting tapes action

Four patients die thirsty or starving EVERY DAY on our hospital wards show damning new statistics

St Paul’s protesters invited into schools to lecture teenagers on campaigning.

Private clinics allowed to advertise abortions on television“What this is actually going to do is desensitise what abortion is and the seriousness of it, and making it sounds like it’s as easy as having your lunch”

Church’s ‘offensive’ anti-atheist billboard is banned by advertising watchdog

Church of Ireland should accept it has gay clergy – sodomite activist

Teebane massacre inquiry demands could grow: minister

Old Bailey bomber Marian Price to stand trial

Stormont Speaker refused Jim Allister request to raise 20th commemoration of Teebane massacre of 8 Protestant workmen by the IRA

Service to mark 20th anniversary of Teebane massacre – no-one has been convicted of the attack

Twenty years on, Teebane families voice frustration

Boston tapes ‘give hope to victims’

Workers protest after military charity snub – an example of the artificial ‘peace’ power-sharing gained

Unionist MP’s anger as US drops ‘Scots-Irish’ term from census list

Alliance may quit Executive over loss of ministry

David Ford in threat to resign over row

Ford angered by proposal to cut Alliance ministry

Plea for Dublin to be frank about the past

No more ‘storytelling’: It’s time for the truth about Northern Ireland’s Disappeared

Court to rule over Boston College tapes handover on January 24

British government awaiting verdict from the U.S. over the release of IRA tapes ‘linking Gerry Adams to ruthless death squad’

Date is set for IRA tapes hearing

Former IRA member ‘fears for life’ over history project

Bomb find ‘a major setback’

Former priest Pat Buckley is in court over alleged sham marriages

Catholic priests asked to pay 60 euros into abuse fund

Fresh prosecution hope over McConville killing

SF in bid to prevent Irish Remembrance invite

Sinn Fein backs pardons for Irish who joined British Army

First Minister refuses to refute slur on Northern Ireland cultural history and heritage

 

 

December 2011

A report from Romania

by Mr. Florin Motiu, Oradea, Romania.

A repeated falsehood

It has been said that if you repeat a falsehood often enough it will be believed, at least by some. In the realm of politics, I think that oftentimes the repetition of a falsehood denotes more the state of delusion of the author of the falsehood as much as a desire to have others join them in that delusion! In the aftermath of the striking of the power-sharing deal between the DUP and Sinn Fein/IRA back in 2007, some of the defenders of the DUP betrayal, who professed faith in Christ, sought to justify the actions of their party from the Scriptures. They cited the case of Joseph and Daniel and foolishly, indeed, most improperly, sought to parallel their deal with the murderers of the Sinn Fein/IRA with these two men of God…Read more

The things which will announce, accompany and follow after the return of Christ

Previously published:

  • Part one: Why we should watch for Christ’s return.
  • Part two: What the Christian waiting for Christ’s return should look out for.
  • Part three: Why the Saviour warned of deception in the last days.
  • Part four: Events in Israel which will herald the return of Christ. 
  • Part five: Signs in the heavens.

Part six: The rising again of the city of Babylon.

We here in the United Kingdom have had many a very clear indication of the economic dictatorship that the Bible tells us will arise in this region of the world, over which the Roman Empire once held sway. I am referring to the diktats that have emanated from the bureaucrats of the European Union. They have poked their nose into every area of life within the UK from what we may put in our sausages to how we gauge weights and measurements! Successive weak and subservient Westminster governments have meekly acquiesced in the EU’s demands time and time again. Read more

 

News stories

Why Irish soldiers who fought Hitler hide their medals

IRA leaders including Martin McGuinness rejected offer to end hunger strikes before final six deaths

IRA leaders outside Maze ‘controlled hunger strike’

KJV’s Greek text ‘doesn’t need updated’ – still the best after 400 years

Hundreds more Church of England members defect to Rome

Priests brawl in Bethlehem’s Church of the Nativity – “No one was arrested because all those involved were men of God.” REALLY!!

Crime gangs are ‘top threat’ to Irish State

Most Tories want UK to pull out of Europe

£5 phone credit for jail protesters – “a ridiculous culture of pandering to troublemakers” says Lord Morrow (but Maurice, is that not what power-sharing is all about????)

Claims of Provo infiltration of police are supported

Are the victims of Enniskillen (Poppy Day Massacre) any nearer the truth?

Half of all top IRA men ‘worked for security services’

First Ministers’ office ran up £16m staff bill

Dominic McGlinchey son ‘was Massereene getaway driver’

US judge asks college for IRA-linked files

Adams rejected chance of early end to hunger strike

Editor’s Viewpoint: Dr Paisley and his mysterious ways

Judge orders Boston College to hand over IRA secret tapes

Speak up for Christianity, Cameron tells Archbishop: PM calls on the Church to defend ‘values and moral code’ of the Bible (Does that include the Law of God on sodomy, Mr. Camerson????)

Institutional Dutch Catholic abuse ‘affected thousands’

Cameron won’t be left out in the cold for long – (How present isolation will give way to greater integration!!)

Double agent tells tribunal he heard detective got rid of vital information after bomb attack which killed 18 British soldiers

Kevin Fulton ‘knew RUC officers who passed information to IRA’

Just Why do Sinn Fein Want to Protect the “Dissidents?”

Nephew of Martin McGuinness shot in leg in Londonderry

Tribunal told it was ‘known’ that garda aided IRA

Garda collusion ‘hindered RUC investigations’

Families ‘to meet PM on Kingsmills’ Massacre

Sinn Fein Lord Mayor will host reception in recognition of bus drivers during the Troubles – 40 years after his father was convicted of hijacking one of their vehicles at gunpoint

Hunt for drunk on the run who escaped in Irish police car

Unionist outrage at Sinn Fein Queen ‘insult’

British army defuses bomb close to PSNI station in Keady

Cost of Irish translation rises

Union Jack days numbered at City Hall?

Families vow to hunt down IRA killers in the Republic

Provo bosses let hunger-strikers die – they know who they are and so do I

Carson’s Home Rule opposition began in Enniskillen

Jeffrey Donaldson testifying at Smithwick Tribunal

Irish government-funded factory ‘may have made IRA bomb parts’

Republican ‘confessed to 1930s RUC murder’

Smithwick Tribunal told Army officers phone was tapped

Jim Allister attends Smithwick Tribunal

‘SF/IRA and Irish nationalism are engaged in a constant attack on the fabric of the Union, snipping it apart thread by thread’ – William Ross

Fury over ‘glorification of IRA’ at youth event (An example of the strategy highlighted in the item above)

SF ‘will present awards to Army cadets in future’

Martin McGuinness: Lord Mayor’s Army cadet snub was wrong

Senior policeman’s tip-off to SDLP MP resulted in IRA warned to get out of Derry on eve of Operation Motorman, inquest told

New cold case report concludes eight-man IRA gang opened fire first and SAS team that killed them had a right to shoot back

Enniskillen bomb aimed at civilians, report finds

Smithwick Tribunal to examine bomb attack that killed 18 soldiers

Australia’s governing Labor party backs gay marriage

Muslim ‘Honour’ attack numbers revealed by UK police forces

Captain Terence O’Neill made much the same pitch to Catholics as Peter Robinson is doing now – or Robbo is Terence O’Neill without the lisp!!

Police wants to know why Roman Catholic church did not report a number of allegations of child abuse by priests

Lord Mayor Niall O Donnghaile apologise for ‘offence caused’

Lord Mayor faces ‘summons’ over cadet snub

IRA victim’s daughter Manya Dickinson confronts IRA bomber – he just laughed in her face!

When mask slips we can see DUP has not changed

Report says 40 priests in diocese of Down and Connor accused of abuse

85 priests were accused of abuse – Catholic Church reviews

Gay men with HIV in Northern Ireland hits a record high

November 2011

DUP now part of the mainstream ecumenical movement in Ulster

Back in October of this year, a copy of an invitation issued by the Northern Ireland Assembly Christian Fellowship, along with an introductory leaflet about the NIACF, came into my possession. The invitation was to a meeting at which the Chief Constable of the Police Service of Northern Ireland was to speak.

What was especially interesting was the fact that the Roman Catholic MLA, Alban McGuinness, was listed as one of those organising the meeting. A reply to the invitation was to be sent to Mr Jonathan Craig, a Democratic Unionist MLA. Read more

DUP continues its ecumenical integration campaign

OFMDFM Junior Ministers Martina Anderson and Jonathan Bell sponsored a panel discussion marking Inter-Faith Week, organised by the Northern Ireland Inter-Faith Forum: “Accommodating faith and diversity in Northern Ireland”. The panel discussion was chaired by Liam Clarke, and the panellists were: Steven Agnew MLA, Sammy Douglas MLA, Anna Lo MLA, and Conall McDevitt MLA. Read more(external site)

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Jesus Christ superstar protest.

A protest was held outside the Grand Opera House in Belfast on Saturday afternoon 5th November 2011 against the production entitled: Jesus Christ Superstar. This year marks the 40th anniversary of its first production for the stage. Around 400 specially prepared leaflets highlighting the slanderous attack upon the person and work of Jesus Christ contained in this ‘rock opera’, were distributed to people attending the final day’s performance of this ‘rock opera’. Read more

What is wrong with Jesus Christ Superstar? A sermon preached by Rev. Brian McClung, Sunday November 6th, 2011.

Forty years on, musical is still blasphemousBelfast Telegraph report.

Maynooth Community Church: Promoting the Jesuit Cause.

The ongoing apostasy within the Presbyterian Church in Ireland may be clearly seen in this article which was recently mounted on Mr Cecil Andrews’ site, Take Heed Ministries.

I am reminded of what Paul the apostle said to the Thessalonian church in 2 Thessalonians 2:7. “For the mystery of iniquity doth already work . . . ” It is most certainly at work today as we near the revelation of the Antichrist, “whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming,” 2 Thessalonians 2:8. We honour brother Andrews and his witness for truth in these evil times.

The things which will announce, accompany and follow after the return of Christ

Part One: Why we should watch for Christ’s return

This is our first study in what I believe will be an interesting and beneficial series of prophetic studies. We will endeavour to look at God’s revelation of the events which He has said will take place just prior to the return of the Saviour to rule this world. We wish to start our series by looking at why we should consider such a subject. Some might believe that it is folly to stare into the future and try and anticipate what will happen amongst the nations at the end of this age. If such a study is folly then the folly began with the Lord Who revealed these things to us and commanded us to give consideration to what He said. Read the article.

Part two: What the Christian waiting for Christ’s return should look out for

I have often used the illustration of the directions given to a traveller becoming more and more detailed as he nears his destination to show that so it is with prophecy. I am convinced that God’s people will be able to tell, with increasing confidence, the time of the Saviour’s return as that wonderful event draws near.

There will come a time when true believers will know to look up for the time of Christ’s return has come. “And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh,” Luke 21:28.

There are four developments, four areas of activities, which are early harbingers of the approaching nearness of Christ’s return. Read more

Part three: Why the Saviour warned of deception in the last days. NEW!

“Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you,” Matthew 24:4.

A wonderful conversation took place between the Saviour and His disciples in a most significant location just days before His crucifixion. That place was the Mount of Olives. It was from this mount that the Saviour would ascend some forty days after His resurrection and it will be to this same mount that the Saviour will return one day soon (Acts 1:9-12 and Zechariah 14:3-4). Read more

 

News stories

Sinn Fein mayor slammed over failure to present award to army cadet

Bishop defends Derry toilet peep priest’s promotion

Historical Ulster: The 1922 riots in pictures

Three bishops made significant errors of judgment when allegations of child sexual abuse were made against priests

What about price of not having death sentence?

TUV Leader Challenges McGuinness on IRA Involvement on Assembly Floor

Yet More Evidence of Growing Lawlessness in Prisons

Derry toilet spy priest gets promotion

‘Release papers over arms shipment to republicans’

Fury at rise in hostage stand-offs in Northern Ireland prisons

RC bishop quits days before child sex abuse report due

What is it like to keep top state secrets?

Papers on secret IRA talks to be made public

Claims that Irish state created PIRA to eject British from Ulster

The Smithwick Tribunal into Irish State collusion in IRA murders: the story so far

Confront your bloody past, unionist tells SF

“It still amazes me how those once pledged to smash SF are today their buddies”

Speech by TUV press officer and Jim Allister’s personal Assistant Sammy Morrison

Is removal of Royal Catholic ban prudent?

SMITHWICK TRIBUNAL: Information linking Garda mole to murders

Garda mole’s information ‘led to IRA murder of senior judge’

DUP to push for ecumenical joint-eduction in Northern Ireland

Plan to rob Prison Service of Royal connections

David Ford criticised over possible changes to NI Prison Service emblems

Dr Ian Paisley retires from Free Presbyterian ministry

Tribunal told of IRA man’s boast -“a Garda officer helped them to murder two senior police officers”

Orange Order protest over Catholic monarch ban move

Unionist MLA criticises absence of Sinn Féin mayor at Belfast wreath-laying

IRA bombing relatives join Enniskillen service

Outrage as Tesco backs gay festival… but drops support for cancer charity event

High time we put an end to this Assembly mob rule

MEP in call for action on FAIR funding

IRA ammo used in double murder

A European funding body seeks return of £500,000 grant money paid to victims groups in Markethill, County Armagh

Danny Kennedy demands release of report into FAIR probe

City of Derry Airport backs down over ‘unacceptable’ poppy

Smithwick Tribunal: witness names Sean Hughes as ambush leader

IRA unit ‘responsible for up to 80 murders’

Massereene gunman ‘showed no remorse’

Public behind my bid to bar killers, says Allister

Irish Vatican embassy closure has huge significance

Irish embassy to Vatican closes in cost-cutting drive

Gay couples to be allowed to ‘wed’ in churches by the end of the year

MP calls on McGuinness to tell the ‘truth’

A very good question indeed! (Letter to a newspaper)

Doctors ORDERED to treat elderly with respect… but shouldn’t that go without saying?